My brother Nathan was easily my greatest inspiration as a young kid. I always thought he was the coolest, smartest, funniest person I knew. I would often mimic his actions completely– I’d play the same video games, make the same jokes, and wear the same Halloween costumes.
I still think he’s one of the most honest and caring people around. So in this episode, I tell him I think he’s immoral and needs to change a fundamental part of his perspective.
We discuss a hierarchy of conscious beings. Do crickets deserve our compassion? We talk about super-intelligent aliens. We talk about priorities and whether veganism is worth the time and effort.
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Chapters
- 0:00 – Intro
- 1:26 – How do you humanely kill an animal?
- 2:00 – Factory farming vs. survival
- 5:34 – When it’s not for survival?
- 8:51 – Hierarchy of consciousness
- 11:58 – “Somewhere between…”
- 14:35 – “When meat is around or going to waste…”
- 14:51 – “I’m going to eat fish.”
- 15:12 – Chemicals in fish
- 16:35 – Food excess
- 19:07 – Ancestral relationships
- 20:08 – Back to first question
- 21:07 – Social imposition
- 26:47 – What is evil?
- 29:16 – Is veganism a “light of good”?
- 34:17 – Why eat the pig?
- 40:03 – What about annoying pigs?
- 42:04 – Alien analogy
- 48:29 – What is intelligence?
- 49:47 – “There’s still a hierarchy.”
- 50:40 – What makes us worth more than crickets?
- 52:40 – Which part of the hierarchy deserves consideration?
- 56:44 – So where is Nathan’s line?
- 58:18 – Why be ashamed of veganism?
- 1:01:10 – Cognitive dissonance
- 1:03:00 – Why continue with dairy?
- 1:04:54 – Crazy dairy lobbyists
- 1:06:36 – Outro
produced and edited by Cammy
outro music by friends not food