Jeremy is an old friend and one of my favorite people in the world. He has a huge breadth of nuanced knowledge across a variety of topics as abstract as spirituality and concrete as history.
He’s an extremely kind and compassionate person outside of paying to create real-life animal nightmares. He’s also an exceptional musician. At the end of this episode, he introduces me to a vegan band he was a part of that I now use as the outro to every episode.
Check out his more serious work/band:
https://briarsofnorthamerica.bandcamp.com/
And his avant-garde vegan band, “Friends Not Food”:
https://soundcloud.com/friendsnotfood
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Chapters
- 0:00 – Forced small talk
- 0:39 – Intro
- 1:13 – How do you kill an animal humanely?
- 1:54 – “Humane is a human reference”
- 4:29 – Already persuaded
- 4:51 – Deer overpopulation
- 6:48 – Compassionate overpopulation solutions
- 7:56 – Plant-based lion feed
- 8:45 – “It feels like a perversion of nature.”
- 11:24 – “I would only eat meat killed ethically.”
- 14:56 – Eating a deer killed accidentally
- 17:25 – Is hunted meat more ethical?
- 18:47 – Lesser evils
- 21:51 – Bear meat
- 22:25 – Tacos in Mexico
- 23:20 – Should one feel guilty?
- 25:48 – Ethical consistency
- 26:48 – How does someone go vegan?
- 30:33 – Dairy industry
- 35:59 – What about the cow population?
- 39:17 – Vegan chicken extinction
- 42:51 – “Predation and pain are parts of nature.”
- 43:46 – Is predator/prey beautiful?
- 46:50 – Relative consciousness
- 57:19 – The sanctity of life
- 58:40 – Habit, addiction, and education
- 1:01:02 – Emotional-connection hierarchy
- 1:02:31 – Vegan pride
- 1:03:20 – Jeremy’s vegan band, Friends Not Food
- 1:07:15 – So you’re going vegan?
- 1:08:25 – Goodbye
- 1:09:20 – Outro
produced and edited by Cammy
outro music by friends not food