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Nathan vs. Veganism: The Consciousness Hierarchy

My brother Nathan was easily my greatest inspiration as a young kid. I always thought he was the coolest, smartest, funniest person I knew. I would often mimic his actions completely– I’d play the same video games, make the same jokes, and wear the same Halloween costumes.

I still think he’s one of the most honest and caring people around. So in this episode, I tell him I think he’s immoral and needs to change a fundamental part of his perspective.

We discuss a hierarchy of conscious beings. Do crickets deserve our compassion? We talk about super-intelligent aliens. We talk about priorities and whether veganism is worth the time and effort.